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Linda Elsegood: I'd like to welcome Chris from England and Chris has multiple sclerosis. Welcome Chris
Chris: Good evening.
Linda Elsegood: Could you tell us your story?
Chris: Uh, well, yeah, I mean, um, in back in 2002, I got diagnosed with multiple cirrhoses. Um, after several years of going to the doctors and the dr. Carney was stress, stress, stress.
Well, I had all these weird and wonderful things happening to me. One of them was, I was walking around. Super bummed balances I felt drunk, really. And after being in the licensed trade for 25 years, that really wasn't a very good image, Didn't understand what was going on. And it wasn't until I moved out of London And was taken into hospital when it was stay. Now I'll go onto the road to actually discover what was the matter with me. Okay.
Linda Elsegood: When you say we'll deal with other than the staggering, what were your symptoms at that time?
Chris: Well, the first symptoms that I had were, Hey, I'm tingling at the end of the book fingers.
And obviously what I've already said, who can only see forward. Drunk really suddenly walk in the side and banging on the wall, uh, old-style or eight, um, pumps my bladder one minute or I didn’t want to go to the toilet and the next minute it was like switching a light on. I know, I know absolutely fasting. Yeah, no, it was another season.
So, you know, wasting between the sounds and what's going on here, you know? And, um, that's, that's the first symptoms that like go right.
Linda Elsegood: What happened later on?
Chris: Well, I mean, I didn't realize this at the time, and it wasn't until I turned on
I think they call it a cognitive thing. Kamia Oh, I actually tried. Oh, I'd call it to focus. So I was unable to concentrate on being a businessman. It was quite difficult, really either. I couldn't really concentrate on things and my reasoning sort of went out the window. Really. In fact, I might call you back to see you.
At one of the worst are people, is that I transferred all my assets over to my wife nine, um, bought house cash in the Knoll, cocking her nine, and then she decided that she didn't want to be married to someone who's here anymore. We got divorced. Um, that was quite a bank cause she's also was making the right decision at the time because I.
Well thinking strike really? Um, connectedness.
Linda Elsegood: How old were you when you were first diagnosed?
Chris: Um, with respect to 2002. So that, I mean, 9years ago he said that's I was 41 Right. A young man. Yes. Oh, I'll just do like a young man.
Linda Elsegood: Of course you are. You're younger than me. So what happened
Chris: Well, I mean, obviously I was going through, I think what lots of people do when they get a new with slight multiple cirrhoses, they do all the research on the internet.
I see all these weird and wonderful, wonderful cures. We can cure this and cure that and, um, just grasping at straws for it. And I, I sort of got a little bit disillusioned with the NHS who put me on, I was on steroids, which I really didn't like, no one told me what steroids would do to me. And actually, turn me into a bit of a mean person.
Also, the very nice person really turned into someone who was having the weight of it, um, and also was on, um, I think it's really best, which is interferon three to one. I, and always kept to myself three times a week for three years. And I kept saying to my consultant, no. No, I don't think that she's doing me any good, you know, too long, getting worse and worse.
I mean, I was under a lot of stress as well. I've got to be it. Um, but I sort of found out, I heard about LDN quite a number of years ago, and all these apps were read about it. Try to get LDN through my own GP. And she flatly refused to. Um, proceed within, in any way, shape or form to a private doc who I cannot remember.
He's nine. Um, But speaking, I think dial through with it now, just now I want to stick with what I'm doing, and I didn't go through, I think I had so much else going on in my life. There'll be 50 people and the children and
pretty well. I've got to a point where I sort of came out of the episode of both. So I've got to accept some stuff and. I then got the volume to be, but the Scarborough, the multiple cirrhoses resourcing through culture stuff, and their website have been texting a new man that the information that they've got and their bridge.
So he's colossal really. And what I like about, and you start, they tell you absolutely everything about everything that's on the market, you know? But they don't, they don't fight for anything, and they don't leave anything out to the person. And he said you should not. So then LDN comes back into my head, and then I start looking at what they were saying about OTA.
I obviously then saw the LDN research trust on there. I'm got in touch with you. you gave information about a doctor that would, um, speak to me then privately. I spoke to that doctor at my consultation, and I've now been taking LDN for a third of $233 today because I'll keep a diary. Right.
Linda Elsegood: Okay. So what have you found out with NHS?
Chris: Well, it's quite striking to me because I have to start all the research that I did about LDN. Um, Eight eight. I went off to start taking it. I was looking at me as this one, the drug. Yeah. And I was how he, it was going to be doing all these wonderful things for me and writing things that were wrong with me.
Um, but LDN for me is quite a subtle drug. And one of the first things that I notice that improved with, well, go ahead. We're more or less. So I got better. Most of my cognitive thinking and my concentration values got better. Yeah. I'm not as balanced as in. I have to be honest, hasn't actually improved that much.
Um, but I have had a situation where we've got our wires crossed, and I had her. I had a period of time I didn't take LDN, because I didn't get my prescription and I did actually nine to how much LDA is done for me, because also now these things coming back and my eyesight got worse. And as soon as I went back on the LDA, things started to get come right again, you know, I mean, LDA is not the only thing that I've done in my life to combat in it.
Positive thinking I exercise regularly, but there's regular stretching and also change diet considerably like, um, a natural one. I’m winning the battle if you say..
Linda Elsegood: Did you notice any initial side effects when you started?
Chris: No, it didn't have any side effects. No, no worries.
Linda Elsegood: So how is your fatigue now, Chris?
Chris: Well, since I've been taking LDN, uh, the fatigue has been barrable really.
I mean, I'll still get it from time to time, but all actually that's more of a. Food issue more than the multiple cirrhoses where before it was all used to describe it, let's say fought in the cold in us, spider's web and the more full against people, more than twined I've got until you act to just give up, you know, you actually give up, but no action felt like that anymore.
And I like to think when I like when I do get fatigued. It's more actual. Thirty shirts more than the EMS while I can ELT. And yes,
Linda Elsegood: What foods have you found make you feel fatigue ?
Chris: Well not, no, it's not so much the food that makes me
Feel fatigue this new food intake or insulate sort of block or four, maybe five times a day. I like to eat smaller meals, more regular. Like if work workload is. As such the loyal back to miss a snack or something, or that auto painted to the house and I'll get tired. Right. Cause I'll miss that out. Move a food issue, not putting some petrol in my body to take the DMS, you know?
Linda Elsegood: So would you continue taking LDN?
Chris: Absolutely. We got that. Absolutely. And what
Linda Elsegood: would you say to other people that we're thinking of trying out the LDN,
Chris: I'll have recommended it to people. I had a friend who had mine. Yes. I know. Recommended it today.
Uh, we don't have a lot local contact.
Um, and you know, I would recommend it to anybody. And I think, I think I've been uptown or talked to about it. Who initially said now, she's actually become to say my progress because I need the Mondo. What did you actually see him the next day? I've seen him a year ago,
looked at me, looked at his pipe.
Linda Elsegood: when you've got the progressive disease it’s great to actually get: it's still such a big deal. Isn't it. To actually stop progressing.
Chris: We've had that. I mean, you need to before. I mean, I, to have a lot of stress with people and stuff like that, but before I started taking it with LDN, I appeared at the time there all wasn't getting out a big bloke.
Yeah. Now on. Yeah, I'm not saying that I could run a marathon, but I'm walking, and I'm late in the next life. You know, I've discovered cycling, and I use it as my form of walking my children. Now, this is me from the marriage. They all have migrated over to me, and I cope with that as well. And I'm good and all sound always up because of that.
No boys crossed. I actually stopped taking them. Nope, not because I wanted to, but just the fact that I didn't have the medication and I think now it's a different,
Linda Elsegood: well, thank you very much for sharing your story with us, Chris. And may your success Continue
Chris: Thanks to you.
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