Cory Rice, DO (LDN, low dose naltrexone) from LDN Research Trust on Vimeo.
Linda Elsegood: Today I'm joined by Dr. Cory Rice, who is a D O.
Thank you for joining me today, Cory.
Dr Cory Rice: Thank you for having me.
Linda Elsegood: Now I have been looking at your website and we had the introduction there, and it's a very comprehensive website. In fact, it's one of the best I've seen. It tells the patient absolutely everything. And I do like the fact that you have patient reviews and that's always taking life into your own hands.
Cause some people can just say nasty things when it's not facing to face and they're not happy. But you have some amazing reviews on there. Um, you have one review which says, uh, Dr. Rice, Ashley and Shannon have given me my life back. I feel better than I have in years and maybe ever. And thank you from the bottom of my heart, Dr.Rice, for your compassion and commitment to quality. And to me, reviews like that are just amazing, aren't they?
Dr Cory Rice: They are. They are. And we're very fortunate to have a great patient base that's really committed to themselves and you know, joined with us to partner with them on, on their journey to health.
Linda Elsegood: You specialize in functional and lifestyle medicine. Now we know traditionally many doctors treat the symptoms. So whatever symptom you have, and you go to the doctors and it's a case of, okay, let's give you something to combat insomnia or, uh, spasms or whatever it may be. Rather than looking at, let's see. Find out why you're having these symptoms. Now, this is what functional medicine is all about, isn't it?
Cory Rice: It is. It is. And I think it's an important thing to know as, as the listener of this, um, to just give me a minute to explain kind of how I got here. I think we all have our story and I think it's important, certainly when I'm doing talks to physicians and to patients, uh, and just to groups so that they know who's speaking to them.
And so yes, you can find out on our website, uh, some information, but just. Just hearing it straight from me, um, I think is important as well. So if you'll indulge me for one minute, um, you said I was a DO and I absolutely am a DO. I went to, uh, an MD allopathic residency and, and, uh, I joke, but I'm serious.
When I say I sort of had some of my humanity washed down with me, um, over the course of, of those three to four years, um, I finished my, my, my chief resident year in internal medicine and really came out with a prescription pad blazing and, and could tackle any disease with any drug. And. Felt like I knew what I was doing at the exact same time, I was staring in the mirror every day at a patient.
So I myself was a patient. I was on six prescription pills. I was not healthy. And I, um, ultimately, uh, needed to change my direction. And so personally, I did some advanced testing, uh, both from a cardiovascular standpoint, genetic standpoint, and started learning other things about health and disease that I hadn't learned in formal training.
And, and Oh, ultimately. Uh, I was able to, you know, reverse a lot of my issues from a cardiovascular standpoint, an insulin perspective, uh, certainly my waistline and, and all of these risk factors. And, you know, um, one by one I was able to come off of medication and I've been off medication for probably seven, eight years now.
And. Um, that particular journey that I took for took me about six months to go through everything I did from diet, lifestyle, and just changing the way I looked at things. Um, I really brought that back to our practice, um, at that time and tried to apply what I learned myself to patient care and that led me to functional medicine.
Um, and really the idea of going after the root cause of, of disease and, and when you learn as a physician, that sounds very, um, crazy to say that, but when you learn as a physician that patients are not deficient and statin therapy or antidepressant therapy, or proton pump inhibitors or stomach medicines, right?
And they're actually deficient and other things, and, and including, right. Nutrient-dense food and supplements and hormones and thyroid and all the things that I do now, um, it becomes very, very clear that. You know, a lot of our disease is completely reversible and curable if you take these little steps and these little layers to, to create, you know, effective, sustainable change in these patients.
And that's exactly what I did. And so we converted our practice over time from a traditional insurance practice and to now two practices that focus solely on lifestyle, hormone management, as well as functional medicine. Um, which has been just an enormous, uh, a blessing. For me personally, and then now our team of providers.
Linda Elsegood: So when a patient comes to you with a multitude of, um, different symptoms saying, you know, I don't feel well, I'm very tired, I'm not sleeping properly, et cetera, et cetera. Where do you start? How do you, um, what's the starting point with a typical patient who doesn't really know what's wrong with them.
Dr Cory Rice: Okay, sure. Great question. So would, the most important thing to me, or any provider that works with me at our practice is what's important to the patient. So the high-level testing we do both from a CRM perspective or a gut analysis perspective or saliva perspective, the data is really there to confirm our clinical hypothesis based upon our interview with the patient.
Right. So literally every single person I ever sit down with, I asked them, what is important to you. Because I don't have a clinical agenda, though I'm going to get all this data. I don't care about the data if it's not what's important to you and what your health goals are. And so when they sit down with me and they tell me my goals are to be around for my grandkids, my goals are to be more engaged in my life.
My goals are to not take medication. Like, you know, I like to hear that because that's the framework around everything that we do moving forward. Because if I just focus on advanced testing and you know, looking at stool analysis and get lost in the minutia of the clinical data, you lose the patient.
And so as long as I and our team of providers keep their eyes on what the patient wants, and we marry that with the diagnostics we do, then it went, we went every single time. And so, to answer your question more directly, when they come in, we ask them what their goals are. We go through their entire history.
From early to old. And then we find out, you know, what, what have they dealt with and where are they now? And ultimately there's, everyone comes in on a different health continuum and a different level of disease or not disease. A lot of people are healthy that come here. A lot of people are sick that come here.
And so we like to joke that for a lot of patients, we're a resort practice because we're the last resort. And so depending on what it is they're wanting, we'll decide on the diagnostics we do. And the rubber meets the road, at least at our clinic or network of clinics when they come in for their second, what I call their second date with us because we have all the clinical data, we have their goals, and now we're ready to put action steps in place.
And so depending on where they are and what they want, um, they'll have a myriad of options. But I can tell you there's not one patient who has left our practice that hasn't felt better, and that's on less medicine or sometimes no medicine. And so depending on where we are, um, we see every autoimmune disease you can possibly imagine.
Um, we certainly see cardiometabolic disease, which is what every physician sees in outpatient medicine. Um, and so depending on where they are, um, that all starts with their goals. And then we align the diagnostics with those and we move forward.
Linda Elsegood: just a question that has suddenly occurred to me when we are born, are we more prone to get, um, conditions that our ancestors had. I mean, is it laid out for us right from word go? Some of the things that might trip us up later in life, or does everybody have a clean slate and circumstances? Um.
Dr Cory Rice: Throughout your life map where you're going to go. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? I do. Also a very good question. So ultimately the answer to your question is yes, we all are given a unique set of genetics and, and what I would call, you know, when I look at this, I conceptually, I look at every person internally sort of having this, I'll just use that for lack of a better word.
Since I don't have a better illustration, a gun, and if you put in that gun, certain genetic predisposition or genetic markers, let's use, for example, if you're positive for something called APO lipoproteins II or MTHFR or all of these sort of genetic sort of polymorphisms that we test, then absolutely that gun becomes more loaded. However, what pulls the trigger of that gun to create havoc is the environment and your choices throughout your life. And so yes, your gun may be more loaded, more destructive than someone else's gun. However. The trigger that's pulled is your choices every single day with your fork and knife, with your stress, with the people that surround you with how you sleep, how you sweat. All of those modifiable, controllable parameters are the things that lead to whether that trigger is pulled or not. So I do believe that we all have this sort of. Preset risk pattern, but we can absolutely mitigate that 100000% because I'm a living, breathing example of that.
I have horrible, horrible genetics, um, and, and cardiovascular disease all throughout my family, and I can modify those risk factors, um, aggressively through my choices every day.
Linda Elsegood: Oh, that sounds like my question. That was exactly what I was asking, but it's amazing, isn't it? If we were aware. When we were younger of the pitfalls that may happen later in life and take action before it happens.
Dr. Cory Rice: It is so much better than trying to rectify it once that trigger is already been pulled. You're so, you're so right. And this is something I discuss every day with patients. The unfortunate reality and physicians, I'm sure I have some like-minded people that may hear this, and certainly, you interview like-minded people like me, but they understand this comment when I make it, you know, oftentimes preventive medicine and the type of medicine we do is not the most sexy of medicines because really, and certainly in the United States or in Western healthcare, you know, when a cardiologist comes in and throws a stent in and saves your life, you know, they're sort of hailed as this hero. Rightfully so. They saved their life.
But at the end of the day, if you can have a provider that is giving you incremental advice, right? So I'll give you a great example. If I've got an autoimmune patient and I say, you know what? Your immune system, dysfunction, dysfunction, if there's no function to your immune system, how do we repair that function? Well, let's look at your gut. So we do a stool analysis. Let me see.
There's all sorts of dysbiosis or at least disruption in the environment of their gut. And I say, okay, so we're going to fix that. But also your D three right. Your vitamin D three-level is low. Let's fix that. Oh, and you have this condition. Let's say lupus, let's say rheumatoid arthritis. Let's talk about a medication called low dose naltrexone.
Oh wait, let's see. Your hormones are off. Well, when you don't have hormones, we can't lubricate the joints and you're going to hurt all the time. Your thyroid's off. And so when I like to tell people now. We're creating kind of these Oh, pockets of troops, right? So like these foot soldiers where they're trying to fend off this immune on slot that we're seeing every day from bad air, bad food, bad water, bad toxic people.
I mean, you name it, it's out there. And so when you're constantly on the onslaught with these, with these, um, you know. I guess you'd say these, these bad guys, and you're constantly trying to prevent that. We as physicians have several layers or several ways that we can set up our ground forces, so to speak, to prevent, you know that from becoming a full out disease process or in this sort of characterization, I guess, war and we do that, not each, each one of those.
Is very important. And there is this additive cumulative effect that just by doing one of those things, you're not going to see much progress. But by adding them together, that's where you really resolve disease and you prevent cancer and you get rid of autoimmunity and all of those things as you have to incrementally add different levels of protection so that patients don't feel those.
And so, you know, the unfortunate thing is, is we don't have. You know, throughout our life trajectory as humans, you know, on our left shoulder. And our right shoulder. We don't have an angel, and then you know, a devil, I guess on the other. On the other side, we don't have these to show us where we're going in the event.
We don't take this preventive or this functional doctor's advice because we just don't have that. So you have to put your faith as a patient and a consumer and who you're partnering with and just trust that what they're doing is going to effectively do what they're claiming it will. Wouldn't it be amazing to take young adults and give them all the tests when they say 20 and say, okay, this is what could potentially happen if you carry on as you are?
You need to tweak this, this, and this. It would save a fortune and save people feeling so bad. Absolutely. No, it'd be wonderful. And it's the same idea. I mean, I'm a younger physician. I'm not, I'm not seasoned as I would call that. I've been, I've seen a number of patients over the last 10 years, and, and there are certain patterns to certain, uh, medical conditions or disease processes that now it's a, it's a pretty cool thing because I can see the early signs in certain younger patients of things that they're headed for and the more seasoned patients that I've seen, and I can tell them, you know what? I've seen your version 15 years from now, I'm treating your version and room to, I promise you, they have the same set of genetic circumstances.
They have the same set of inflammatory markers. They have the same set of this, this, and this, and I can see where you're headed. So it's your choice to change that trajectory or not. So that's kind of a cool deal nowadays. Well, yes. I mean, I find it really upsetting. I do hear nice stories the same as you had the patient reviews.
Linda Elsegood: You know, LDN has given my life back. You know, I feel I've been given a second chance, all this kind of thing. But I also hear from people who say, I woke up this morning. I prayed I wasn't going to wake up. I feel so ill. and that is just heartbreaking. You know, if we could prevent people from ever feeling that ill, um, that would just be amazing.
But I can't see how. That would ever come about, but it would be a nice dream, wouldn't it? Oh, it certainly would. It's certainly one. I think our population is lacking the will to really want to do a lot, and we hear time and time again, these words, these aren't Dr. Rice's words. These are the patient's words, but they're, they're telling me consistently, I want to feel more engaged in my life. I feel like I'm just going through life, not living my life. Right. And you know, our country has done an okay job, I guess, of keeping people alive longer. However, we're just not feeling good. So when disability that's in at 45 or 50 that life, that lifeline of 30 to 40 years of disability, towards the end of life, it's just, that's just not acceptable.
But if we can slowly, gradually reverse some of these conditions. And give people a better quality of life. I mean, I was absolutely amazed. Um, I became a type two diabetic. I have MS and I'd been given three courses of intravenous steroids and I blew up like a balloon. I was huge. I'd gained a six stone, six times 14 that's how many pounds it’s scary.
I was just huge. I had to send my husband out to buy. Like a dress like a tent, cause none of my clothes by about six inches. So I could go out to buy some clothes cause I didn't know what size I was just any way, I became a type two diabetic, which horrifies me and. My grandmother died of diabetes back in 1968-ish.
When they didn't really know that much about diabetes. She went into a diabetic coma and there was all this sort of diabetes thing in the background, and it's just like, oh, I really don't need this. Both my parents were diabetics too, but I have changed my diet. I lost the weight I put on, not all of it honestly, but I have lost most of it.
And look after myself better than I did, and I'm now classed as a diabetic in remission. So I'm really pleased. So thank you. I was really, I was really pleased with that box. I could, you know, tick, uh, best I can. I mean, it's still shows on prediabetic, but Hey, that's absolutely fine with me. That's better.
It tastes a lot better. Yeah. And I can remember. Uh, when I was 32, I had, um, cervical cancer. I was diagnosed with MS when I was 44. Um, I was diagnosed after my mother had a massive heart attack with hereditary high cholesterol. Um, and then this diabetes and my 15-year-old at that time said, you do realize mum, I could have all of these things as well.
You know, what does life hold for me? And it was. I didn't know about functional medicine, everything at the time, and I was thinking, well, I don't know. You don't say that, but it's like, Oh, really? I hadn't thought. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I did want to try and stop taking my statin and it just kept going so ridiculously high.
I was. The risk of having a heart attack or a stroke. It was that high the consultat I saw. she said to me that if I lived on a lettuce leaf and a glass of water, and if that's all I ate, I would still have high cholesterol. So I've got to take the pills.
She said it's hereditary, you know, and I got it from my mother and my grandfather had it apparently. Um, so I've had to accept, because. I don't like taking medicine either. I would rather do it naturally, but I think sometimes you just have to. Yeah, there is some medication, certainly without medication.
Dr Cory Rice: And I don't want the listener to think I'm anti-medicine--without certain medicines, we wouldn't be alive today, but I don't think it's a far stretch for me to tell anyone really that, um, certainly our world and certainly in the United States, um, we are run on pharmaceuticals and, um, there's just, there's just too much of that going on.
And, and. So there's a huge need that needs to be fulfilled, to help people get off of these. You know, that therapy is one of those, um, that is pretty controversial anywhere you look really, um, you know, everybody's got an opinion. And so my, my particular opinion, because I speak on statins and advanced lipids and all of that, um, uh, you know, I'm not a large proponent or advocate of females being on statins, I think if, if you are on a statin as a woman, um, I still only want it, it's really more for inflammation protection, but it's, I'll put them on there intermittently, so like three days a week, and then obviously give them high dose CoQ10. And there was a cardiologist that I learned a lot from as far as primary prevention of heart disease, and he was the one that told me, you know, anytime you've got a woman and she's on a statin, make her take it Monday, Wednesday, Friday cause she gets the same benefit as daily. And he said, you know, no drug company will design a study to show that you need to take their medicine less. It's always going to be to take it daily and more so. But he said, based upon all of his years of treating heart disease, he says, no, no change.
And someone who takes it every other day versus daily. Um. There was a wonderful, wonderful, integrative, uh, uh, interventional cardiologist. Uh, Mimi Guarneri, um, very well known. Uh, she's the president of the American Board of Holistic Medicine, and, and as I said, she's a conventional interventional cardiologist and there's a lot of good videos on her, uh, discussing statin therapy and ladies.
And, uh, really there is, there is no, um, study or clinical design that's ever been done, that's shown statins help to do anything, to primarily prevent heart disease, strokes or anything in a female. Um, I get the idea of doing it for an anti-inflammatory, but you just have to be very careful of what it's doing to the mitochondria long-term.
And so, you know, that's just my anecdote and, and, and kind of my opinion. But, um, and I manage a lot of these similar things, but, but you know. I would just proceed with caution. I think as a woman, I've been taking it for 18 years, so maybe I will try taking it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That would be good.
Linda Elsegood: Also, I used to take uh, an antacid cause I have acid reflux, but I managed to cut that out as well with changing my diet. I don't get an acid stomach and it's because of the gluten. If I have something if I go into a restaurant and I say whatever dish it is, could you check that there is no gluten in there? And they'll say, come back and say yes. The chef said there's no gluten. Once I get to bed and I get the pains in my stomach and the burning in the back of my throat. And I know that there was gluten in it. Cause that's the only reason. Yes, exactly. So that's annoying when that happens. But if I do manage to cut gluten out completely, the acid problem is gone.
It's been a challenge. It is, isn't it? And it's listening to your body. And that is difficult. I mean, I've stopped taking the Metformin for diabetes. I've stopped taking this antacid tablet. I take LDN and the statin, which I'm now going to try taking three times a week, but I'm not taking anything else. And I don't ever take painkillers.
Uh, when I was in a lot of pain, it was a trade-off. I could either take the pain medication, which then created such bad nausea that it just felt I was going to vomit just by lifting my head up, turning my head. But sometimes it was a case of I can't stand the pain. I'll take the tablets. And then after taking the tablets, I wished I hadn't because the nausea was so bad.
So I just, I just gave up with tablets, but that was before LDN and touch wood. I don't have those pains. Any more. So that's really good. Yeah. So what would you say, um, I know everybody's different and you can't put everybody in the same pigeonhole, but your patients that take LDN, do they still take, you know, a vast array of medications, or have they managed to decrease the number?
Dr Cory Rice: Yeah. So, um, I can't say there's a, there's a pattern there across the board. I, I'd say more so than not, they're on, they're certainly on less medication. Um, LDN has been just a fabulous, uh, introduction to, to what we do and, and I just can't say it enough. Um, our best cases of complete remission. Whether that's multiple sclerosis, as you said, whether that's colitis of, of any variety, um, certain skin conditions or Hashimoto's, I mean, all of it, um, complete remission of those conditions across the board happens when the patient is yes, taking LDN.
However, when they're, when they're. Looking at the different other segments of their life and quite frankly, their immune function. Um, and, and, you know, committing themselves to a healthier way in a healthier decision process. Those are the ones that do very, very well. And so, um, if I've got someone who comes in with whatever, cardiometabolic disease depressed. On an antacid or proton pump inhibitor, and you know, we end up making some lifestyle decisions and showing them their genetics and immune function and dah, dah, dah, and they end up no longer having those issues. Certainly, they come off the medications associated with that issue, but oftentimes, if you can just heal someone's gut you know, you can, you can help kind of their whole situation.
And so, you know, I treat a lot of thyroid disease, lots of thyroid disease. That's a big one for me. Um, it's a personal professional passion because it's just so mismanaged and misunderstood in this country and in the world, I think. And so, um, the thyroid is, is the perfect example that, that gland, uh, you know, controls so many different functions in the body.
And if you're not optimizing it. Not optimizing the levels of thyroid in the body. Uh, then you, then you really are missing the boat on several things. And there's, there are very clearly defined reasons now why our thyroid gets dysfunctional. And, uh, it just, it just, you know, from a diagnostics perspective and a treatment perspective, 95% of formal physicians on the planet are just not.
They're kind of going with what I used to do, which is through what I was taught in training. And they're not really looking at how it functions, but when you repair immune function, um, you know, the LDN is wonderful at helping clear out some of those antibodies so that their thyroid functions better.
And so I don't think I ever take anyone off LDN. Um, I kind of make my exception with low dose naltrexone because I tell patients every day, you're not deficient in this. You're not deficient in that. You're not deficient in statins. You're not deficient in, you know, Metformin. You're not deficient in this.
So let's fix those. Let's show you what you are deficient in. But it also goes against my mantra. You know, I do want you to think about taking this medication because we just live in a very toxic planet, and it's giving you a little more protection to deal with the onslaught of those toxins. But you're not deficient in LDN.
So that's kind of my whole thing with that. Our food isn't the quality it used to be years ago either. Is it? Hmm. No, it isn't. Our soil isn't certainly our water. Our people aren't. I mean, I feel like you can talk about anything and there are just toxins every single place. Right? So you combine that with the inability to detox through the liver, and you have genetic predispositions for that, and it's just a, it's just a perfect storm to develop an autoimmune disease.
Or. You know, or cardiovascular disease or cancer. I mean, you name it, it's just a, it's, it's a war out there. And physicians, I feel like as a, as a physician, and we just have to be smarter than what we learned in formal training, we have to, you know, there's just more to it than that.
Linda Elsegood: What kinds of diet would you say is a healthy diet? What should we be looking to eliminate? Yeah. So broad question. Um, so yeah, diet, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll use the term menu plan. So what type of way of life or menu?
Dr Cory Rice: Um, the diet has such a negative connotation to it. Um, unfortunately, because the Torborg diet was not meant to be a negative thing.
However, um, from a menu perspective, it really depends on you as a patient, right? So I don't think there's any one size that fits everyone. Um, there is a rage now among some of our patients that get fantastic results from eating ketogenic and living that life. Um, there are patients that can't tolerate chemo.
There are patients that are strictly paleo. There are patients that are pescatarian, vegetarian, vegan, you name it. And so I am here. There is no one size fits all. I mean, I know how I eat and what I do, but that's. Based upon my genetics and what's worked for me to fix some of my biomarkers and just helped me get off medicines and feel great, but what works for me doesn't always work for everyone else.
And so the best way to answer that question is for patients to have a concrete idea of what their biomarkers look like and their genetics look like. What does your risk pattern look like? I want to know all of it. From the genetics to, you know, what is your blood type, right. What, what, what, because I've seen patterns among different populations of patients on how they can eat and what they tolerate and what they don't.
For example, I try Keto. I don't do well with Keto at all, but Keto has been a wonderful, uh, addition for some patients, certain particularly women that have, that can't lose weight and doing anything. Um, they go on to the ketogenic, pure ketogenic diet, and they're in there. Measuring their ketones and such, and they are finally losing fat.
And I think it's breaking that leptin resistance cycle they have. But, um, you know, there's just no perfect answer for our diabetics or cardiometabolic disease. I'm still very, very hardcore about the Mediterranean food plan. So eating a Mediterranean diet modified down to reduce the gluten and dairy content, um, is still highly, highly successful and studied and published on reversing and cardiometabolic disease and diabetes specifically.
Um, so it really does depend on that risk pattern. If you have an autoimmune patient right. There's an autoimmune protocol that we follow. Um, that works very nicely. And that's just removing all the inflammatory foods and just increasing the nutrient density of what you're eating. And it's really not that complicated.
Um, I think from the provider perspective, because it's very much similar to some of these other things we do, but if you've got someone with gut dysfunction and intestinal candidiasis or small intestinal bowel overgrowth, I mean, we've got different. You know, ways of eating to kind of fix those conditions.
Um, so it truly is individualized. That's just, that's just, I think that's just good medicine to look at it that way.
Linda Elsegood: Okay. So for patients out there who are listening, you’re in Texas, you have two, um, offices. Could you tell people how they could contact you? Where do they have to go?
Dr Cory Rice: Absolutely. Um, so the first thing is if you want to hear more about what we're about, go to our website. It's www.mymodernmedicine.com. Uh, there are two locations, one in the centre of Dallas, uh, and Addison. And on our website, there's a phone number and address for that. And then we've got another location about 20 to 25 miles East of that location. Um. That they can also sort of search for and find. Um, I'll also be starting, I hope soon to be publishing more podcasts, YouTube stuff because I've had a lot of requests for that.
I've just got a lot of information I'd like to disseminate to my patient base and just the people that want to follow, whether they're patients or not. And so I'm hopeful that I can get that going as soon as well. But there's enough, I think, content on the web that they should be able to at least locate us and find out more about us.
Linda Elsegood: And what about waiting lists? How long would a patient have to wait to see you or one of your partners?
Dr Cory Rice: You know, um, it's not as bad as, as I think some other clinics. And so, you know. Right. You know, and this is, I think why that is our whole model. This sounds kinda crazy, but our whole model is predicated on getting you well.
Um, the disease model in, in America certainly is not predicated on wellness. It's predicated on keeping you to pay in and buy into it. And so the only way a doctor like me thrives and our business thrives and we're able to grow other clinics is to get new. An influx of patients and well, how do we do that?
You just build that through word of mouth. Like we literally have not spent $1 in marketing ever since I've found this. And it's all word of mouth. That's how we've been able to build another office. And so, um, the waitlist with that sort of foundation said isn't bad. I mean, it's probably, I don't know, four weeks or so may be to get in to see me as a new patient and then one of our providers can maybe see you a little sooner, but it's not, it's not too terrible. Um, there's a lot that goes into the first two visits. Like anything else in the functional medicine world, you just have a lot of, it's just an overwhelming experience, I think. Um, but there's a lot that you learn. Um, and you're, you're ready. I think you're, you're empowered with knowledge once you leave after that second visit.
So, um, the wait, I wouldn't let that be a bother, but I think I would, you know, whoever the, whoever may be listening to this, if they're even remotely close to where we are, they could call one of the offices and get a pretty good idea, but it's not bad. And what about telephone consultations? Would you do that?
Do set the tone. Okay. I do. That's been something new for the last new as in the last one to two years. This whole idea, because patients move, um, people learn about you. Um, I speak for a number of organizations and it's just by doing this, you travel all over and you meet all sorts of people and they want you to help them.
And so, um. They don't have to be, you know, right down the street from you. And so, yes, I absolutely do that. Um, and we do have means at times to set up like mobile phlebotomy work so that you can, we can actually, through our vendors who'd get our lab testing, can go and meet you at your work or home to draw the lab.
So there's no like, additional cost there. Um, and so there are ways of. Doing that. Um, I'm no longer an insurance physician. I used to be, but I'm no longer now. Um, and there's a lot of political reasons as to why that it just wasn't a sustainable model. And I'm sure people probably understand that the insurance system is not built on getting you well, it's on getting your money.
So, um, they just did not want to compensate or pay for someone like me. They didn't want me out there conquering all this disease. But. Hold on. I'm sorry. But as you said at the beginning, it's a partnership, isn't it, between the patient and the doctor, and it's that trust, isn't it? You know, if you really gel with that doctor, you would wait the four weeks willingly, you know.
Who wants to be part of a dictatorship. Right? I mean, it just doesn't, especially when you're dealing with a vulnerable set of circumstances as far as disease and health care. So, well, we've come to the end of the show and thank you so much for being with us today. I love being here. This was awesome. So I'm available anytime you need me.
Linda Elsegood: This was great. Thank you.
Dr Cory Rice and his team of providers treat all forms of autoimmune disease, thyroid hormone issues, diabetes, cardiometabolic syndrome, and cancers with LDN. He is a practising internist whose practice emphasis is on functional and lifestyle medicine. Visit www.mymodernmedicine.com.
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